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Thank you Moviefan, and Pamela Hall (Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:26am ET)report post
by Dolores Bauer
I am naive, and I very much appreciate your comments on Oskar. Thank you for responding to my questions. I feel awful about the stuff he went through during WW2. I know how post-traumatic stress disorder can destroy one's life.
I am in treatment now for this. I wish in some way I could have helped him.
-Dolores Bauer
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Re: Thank you Moviefan, and Pamela Hall (Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:14pm ET)report post
by moviefan
Wishing you the best Dolores.
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I Love Oskar (Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:54pm ET)report post
by moviefan
Well...I don't think it's widely known what, if any, help he sought or received. Availability of treatment and societal attitudes in his day were vastly different compared to now. And I don't know if it could be assumed that he wanted "to do away with himself." Alcoholism is a disease. And the truth is that some people recover and some people die from it like any other disease, whether they're talented or not.
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I love Oskar! (Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:46pm ET)report post
by Dolores Bauer
When I read his biography on the internet, after having so many wonderful feelings about the films he made, I wonder why such an incredible talent would want to do away with himself. Why did he let this happen? Why didn't he ever seek help for his alcohol abuse???
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Re: I love Oskar! (Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:30pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
I knew Oskar in his last years (exchange of many letters). I was honored and people who are in a position to know have told me that they are "sure my letters gave him some happiness." I hope they did.
He absolutely did not take his own life. His death was caused by stopping drinking suddenly without any medical supervision. He died, as did my uncle, of a heart attack.
One thing that gives more credence to this is his own attitude about suicide. When told of Virginia Maskell's suicide (she played his wife, Antonia in "Interlude") he said, horrified, "But, she had young children!" His only error lay in thinking that he could stop "cold turkey".
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Re: I love Oskar! (Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:11pm ET)report post
by moviefan
Dolores,

The first part of my comment is accidentally in the above box....

Just wanted to add that you're not alone with being affected by Oskar's work. There was something very special about him. I think it's too bad he made relatively so few films, but I know I'm glad for the ones he did.
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Felix Werner's Petition (Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:11am ET)report post
by Carolyn F. Ferrante
Do any of you realize that Oskar's son, Felix, has posted a petition for signatures to have Interlude put on DVD? Unfortunately, I don't remember the URL but please search for it. The last time I checked there were only about 30 signatures!
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Re: Felix Werner's Petition (Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:47am ET)report post
by Sandra E Waldron
I would be thrilled to sign that petition. I have wanted that movie for years!
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Re: Felix Werner's Petition (Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:30pm ET)report post
by moviefan
Actually, a fan of this movie contacted Felix Werner and asked him if he knew why "Interlude" was not available on VHS/DVD.

His response was that he would look into obtaining the rights to the film and about the possibility of having it released.

That fan and others on the Oskar Werner forum started a petition to show Felix how many people were interested in "Interlude".

if you're interested....

http://de.geocities.com/oskarwerneronline/
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Re: Felix Werner's Petition (Wed Aug 8, 2007 6:01pm ET)report post
by Joanne
I too am a great fan of Oskar Werner. I have been trying for years to get a copy of Interlude and would like to know if anyone knows the outcome of his son Felix's try to get the movie rights and have this film released. Many, many years ago I purchased a VHS copy that someone must have copied from t.v. (one of the few times it was shown) but it is very grainy and the sound was way off. Thanks and help!!
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reviewer (Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:06pm ET)report post
by John Demastrie
An actor like Oskar Werner simply makes you wonder why the trash from Hollywood gets any attention at all.
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Re: reviewer (Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:20am ET)report post
by Carolyn F. Ferrante
Mr. Demastrie -- Oskar was the quintessential dramatic actor -- a master at his craft. All that is lost in today's mess of movie stars. And that mess is exactly what the public wants. I just recently bought, "Shoes of the Fisherman." I had never before seen it. I think it was released in 1968. Although the premise is a bit unrealistic, it is a classic, with wonderful performances by Anthony Quinn, David Janssen, and of course, a young Oskar. This movie would be a big flop in today's cinema (I think.)
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Re: reviewer (Sat Feb 3, 2007 3:22pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
I am so glad that Oskar's work continues to be appreciated today. In my own experience there was never an actor to equal him and I think Stanley Kramer's epitaph about him said it well and pithily - the "greatest actor from pathos to complete rage."
There has never been another actor whose real life identity is completely lost, submerged within a character whose only existence is words on a page. You never think, "there is Oskar Werner as --- ---." It took enormous courage to do that,,, and to do it over and over boggles the mind. That, and remembering that, as a sensitive teenager he witnessed the Nazi attrocities and knew what was going on, which many people disavow, made him a kind of giant of a soul. A genius of unparalled stature in his chosen art.
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Interlude (Thu Nov 9, 2006 2:49pm ET)report post
by Yolanta
I simply CANNOT believe that a DVD or VHS is not available of this superb film with Oskar Werner! I have been trying for years to get this film with no luck. I do have the beautiful sountrack on an LP record. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME get this film. I saw is as a very young and impressionable girl in 1968 and it left a deeply profound effect on me to this day - what a love story!!

Yolanta
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Re: Interlude (Sun Dec 9, 2007 2:10am ET)report post
by SusanM
Nice to know there are others who were so affected as young women by this film. It sounds crazy to me now in my old age, but I loved this film so much I went to the movies just about every other day to see it. It was an addiction! I must have seen it ten times. As a result, I failed two college classes and dropped out. Didn't return to college until 3 years later, haha. I haven't had the chance to see the film since.
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Re: Interlude (Sun Mar 4, 2007 3:22am ET)report post
by don
Spot on Yolanta
I too saw this in 68/69 and fell in love with the story and can't believe that it hasn't been dvd'd.
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Re: Interlude (Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:02pm ET)report post
by Art
I SO agree with your thoughts on Interlude. I played the soundtrack until I wore it out. I've been looking for a copy for years too. I found a homemade copy of it on Betamax, but haven't been able to find a player. I sent it away to have it converted to DVD and it came back and they said it was a defective tape! Some day, let's hope.
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Re: Interlude (Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:52am ET)report post
by Sandra E Waldron
I got a copy from Screen Archives...I think they are still available.
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Re: Interlude (Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:37pm ET)report post
by Sally
try ebay.... search "interlude" + "oskar werner".
among the posters, photos, etc., there is a listing for a DVD.
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Re: Interlude (Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:22pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
If you have not already contacted the Oskar Werner Online Forum, please try there.
It is an excellent source of information and from what I can assume from the replies and requests people are finding this film on DVD or VHS..... most recently the former. I believe there are one or two sources among the Forum participants. That is your very best bet..... and we are always glad to have new Oskar appreciators join us!!!!
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Interlude (Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:25am ET)report post
by GreyBeard
Hi, I am trying to see Interlude again. Can anyone tell me where i could buy or rent a copy? DVD, vhs or (actually the manuscript would be fine.) Is it a novel, because I can't find it anywhere. Bitte helpen sie mir. Danke sehr shoen.
Hopeless romantic.
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Re: Interlude (Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:47am ET)report post
by pamela hall
Hello "Geybeard" - have you tried "Oskar Werner Online" yet. You'd be surprised at how many people are getting things through the members on that Forum.
Besides that, it is, without doubt, the best site on Oskar Werner on the entire internet.
Yes, I have had a little to do with it but the "brains of the outfit" is a young Austrian woman. She and others on the site have provided some wonderful information, even, now photos. So, it is definitely worth a visit at least. If you are really interested in Oskar you will be happy with what you find.
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Re: Interlude (Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:20pm ET)report post
by Elizabeth
Hi! As I wrote in the online forum, somewhere, maybe even in this very forum, someone said that BovineVideos.com had a copy of Interlude.........$20.00. They say itīs not sharp nor loud...........but itīs good enough to be very enjoyable. Also, ladybeware87@yahoo.com will sell a DVD or probably a VHS copy for around $15.00. Sheīs real nice. I must have found her name here too!

Elizabeth
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Re: Interlude (Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:26pm ET)report post
by Pamela hall
Now, now.... don't go thinking that we all think of ourselves as greybeards.... Oskar's art and spirit continue to attract new and surprisingly young "fans." This fact is a tribute to him!
"Interlude" was not based on a novel, or if it was it was an old one and interpreted over time by several films. The most famous of these is "Intermezzo" with Ingrid Bergman and Leslie Howard (Bergman's film debut) came out in '39. Then, in the mid fifties it was made under the "Interlude" title but with June Allyson and Rossano Brazzi. Then, "our" "Interlude" which,beside its main characters included the debuts of some actors who have become very famous since, John Cleese, Donald Sutherland and Sir Derek Jacobi, in a tiny role toward the end. I do have an extra DVD bought almost by mistake, I was so used to getting Oskar's work. I had, in the meantime, received a DVD of the film from a friend. The one I have is '0' and should play anywhere..... it does in the US and was made in Canada.
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Untitled (Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:31pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
Please, please will those leaving messages or responding to an email not concerning the late, great actor, Oskar Werner, delete your messages from this site and seek the correct email address for your messages.
Using this site for these unrelated businesses helps neither the companies involved nor the customers attempting to reach you.
There have been complaints from people who are trying to use the site for its correct purpose.
This helps no one.
Your assistance and attention are appreciated!!
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Online forum Oskar Werner (Thu Sep 7, 2006 7:47am ET)report post
by Charmaine (Edwina)
Dear Pamela

I am so tired to trying to get through to the Oskar Werner online forum. I have re-registered under my middle name but the codeword given keeps saying an error has occurred./ I give up, I wanted to say that I now have Decision before Dawn DVD and I am thrilled to own it. I know it is not your favourite for personal reasons and think Oskar was brave to do it with all the guns and violence but it is a tribute to his acting with the look in his eyes throughout - he can act without too many words. What a star!

Thank you

Charmaine
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Re: Online forum Oskar Werner (Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:29pm ET)report post
by Elizabeth
Charmaine, please try again! We'd love to have you! as I said..I use the password the system gave me when I registered, and it works!
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Re: Online forum Oskar Werner (Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:18pm ET)report post
by Elizabeth
Charmaine, it would be lovely to have you in the Oskar Werner online forum, if you feel as strongly about Oskar as the rest of us do. I registered there and the system gave me a strange group of letters and numbers. I wrote them down, then tried to change my password. That didnīt work.
I suggest you start all over with any name you wish and write down the series of numbers and words, then continue to use them as your password. If I forget and mix them up, the system tells me an error has occurred, so, I just go out of the site, then back in and try again. Itīs well worth the trouble! In fact, Iīve got that code memorized now!

Elizabeth
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Re: Online forum Oskar Werner (Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:00pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
Charmaine, I tried using your name and was able to get through going to "Home."
Give it a try.
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Re: Online forum Oskar Werner (Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:56pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
Charmaine, let me see what I can do going in the "other direction".
I am faced with the Log in screen but can bypass it by going in to "home" or another offered part.
Were you ever a part of the Forum? If so, you could try what I do just in case. In the meantime I will see what I can do.
Sorry you're having problems.
I think what the Admin is trying to do is to keep the kind of "cranks" that show up on this form off of ours.
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writer (Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:22am ET)report post
by ali ford
i would like to find a biography on Oskar Werner in English,
I have been looking for many years, is there one out there?
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Re: writer (Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:58am ET)report post
by pamela hall
There is not at present an English version of Oskar's biography. Perhaps because I knew him (exchange of letters during his last years) I was able, with the assistance of a German/English dictionary, to make sense of the books that have come out "auf Deutsch." Almost all of these books are out of print despite the fact that some have been published very recently. I managed to get them to read through the network that my local library belongs to. Of these books "Ein Nacklang" by Robert Dachs, is the best for those of us not fluent in German.... it is mostly photos and, with assistance, the text can be readable.
You might find the really comprehensive website "Oskar Werner Online" to be of interest and assistance. ( I am not saying this because I have been involved in it. It is truly the best site on Oskar currently in English on the web.
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Re: writer (Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:44pm ET)report post
by Elizabeth
I highly recommend Amazon.de for any Oskar Werner fan, even if you don't understand German. I do know a lot of German, but you'll find one book in particular that is really wonderful, each side has a picture of Oskar on it..........it costs about $40.00. It has stories by people close to him and tells a lot about him. You can get a feel for him even without understanding the words.............then there are programs for translating that you could use..........anyway, there are also wonderful CD's where he's reading poetry and his last interview before he died, which I listen to daily because it's so alive! Elizabeth
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Decision Before Dawn (Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:04am ET)report post
by Robert
Anyone know the title of the song played in the movie "Decision Before Dawn," the tune heard when Werner ("Happy") is drinking wine with his Waffen-SS acquaintance at the Heidelberg Soldatenheim? It's a haunting melody, and I'd love to know it's title in order to uncover a recording of it.

Very tragic that Werner died so prematurely. What a tremendous performer he was.
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Re: Decision Before Dawn (Fri Sep 2, 2005 11:02am ET)report post
by pamela hall
Hi, glad to know someone else appreciated Oskar's work. He and I exchanged correspondence during his last years, some- thing by which I was truly honored. He tended not to feel comfortable with people with whom he did not have some kind of intellectual common ground. We did and it was quite a surprise at first, then, as I said, a real honor.
Nicole Huber at the "Oskar Werner Online Forum" (or the "Oskar Werner Online" regular site) would probably be your best bet. She knows his film work and that film especially, far better than I. I found it hard to watch. My father was killed in that area and Oskar's character is executed in the end.... all too much for me emotionally. You should be able to contact her through either one of the above sites. If you have difficulty, please let me know. I have seen the film but it was years ago (around '81) so I have no memory of the music. But all of us on the Forum are always glad to help with things like his. Some users have the film in either VHS or DVD.
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Oskar Werner's Depression (Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:53pm ET)report post
by Leslie Walsh
Pamela, did Oskar ever seek any type of treatment for his alcoholism or depression? I assume his family life was terribly impacted by his disease but his brilliance survived intact it would appear.
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Re: Oskar Werner's Depression (Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:03pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
Hello, Leslie. No, I greatly doubt that he would have ever sought treatment. Fairly early in the '60's he said in an interview that he drank "because of the ecstasy it gives me. It brings me out of my dark moods." This, of course, is a huge warning flag that literally screams out the addiction problem to anyone who hears it. I think that, at the end of his life, he might have realized what had happened and that he was dying. By that time stopping without medical supervision would have killed him and keeping on drinking did kill him. He was lonely and depressed. The depression he was born with you could say. We now know that it is caused by a lack of serotonin in the brain. Now it can be treated. I doubt that he could have faced sobriety in the world as he saw it. When he made that statement about "ecstasy" it was fairly early in the '60's before alcohol (and, for that matter coffee and a lot of other things we don't think of) was pointed out to be a drug. I think very early in his career, had he been faced with that truth he might have avoided the problem. We also know that the tendency to have an addictive personality can run in families. My most beloved uncle was an alcoholic and was only saved from a demise like Oskar's by his wife, my aunt. She was one of the greatest examples of unconditional love that I have seen. She kept his liquor watered and kept him alive until his 70's. We have to remember about Oskar that he was, in his deepest heart, a rather shy and introverted person. He was also highly sensitive and very intelligent. Imagine what you or I might have been like had we been through what he endured starting at age 15. That was when the Nazis annexed Austria. Oskar said over and over in interviews years later "People say they didn't know (about the Holocaust) but I knew." He remembered seeing the horror, to him of book burnings and the hideous incident that has now been called "Kristallnact." He told of seeing grandmothers and university professors down on their hands and knees washing the streets just because they were Jews. At age 19 he was drafted into the Wehrmacht and they wanted him to be an officer on the Russian front. He was a true pacificist, when they handed him a pistol he vomited. So, he embarked on the best performance of his life...... pretending to be so stupid that he was only good for cleaning toilets and peeling potatoes. During the Allied bombing of Vienna he counted the number of bombs that fell on his beloved city.... he never forgot. Then, after one raid he was trapped in rubble for three days. He had a kind of breakdown after that. But, as soon as he could he took his half Jewish wife and baby daughter and deserted the army. They spent about 5 months hiding in a little hut in the Vienna Woods. When the Russians began their advance into the area they took the baby in a basket between them and ran back toward the city. In the confusion no one stopped him to arrest him for desertion. He survived to tell us all, in later years what it had been like and to warn us that "those people are still there." I could not say whether I would have lost my sanity completely under those circumstances. I really think that those who, in ignorance, blame him for "excessive drinking" should have been brought up short. In the light of what he had gone through in the most sensitive portion of the maturing of his character I do not feel anyone should criticize him. He lived to tell the truth and to pour out his heart into all his projects because he wanted to share the beauty of the arts with us all.
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Oskar Werner (Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:14pm ET)report post
by Leslie Walsh
Dear Pamela -- I just read your return note. Disregard my previous note excepting the portion that asks about the goofy categories for tools and the like appearing. I totally agree with your comments re alcoholism and depression, having been trained in that field. I am so grateful to have caught up with people who were so touched by this genius of a man. He was much beloved as he should have been. More later.

Leslie Walsh
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Re: Oskar Werner (Sun May 7, 2006 1:45pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
Hello Leslie and any other of Oskar Werner's "fans" check out the site "Oskar Werner Online."
It is an excellent site with many categories offered.
It's well worth your time..... of course, you may have visited already. I have done a little on that site, a biography in English, for one thing, for anyone who needs that. It is available in both Deutsch and "English."
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Re: Oskar Werner (Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:45pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
Hi, Leslie.... would love to hear from you via direct email if you'd like (pamhw@charter.net). I am always so glad when another person is "caught up" in the spell of Oskar's genius. (Of course, he insisted he wasn't a genius. But, he would have expected me to argue that point "ad infinitem". So, I am just fulfilling his expectations, which, by the way, I think you will join me in extolling!)
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Re: Decision Before Dawn (Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:06pm ET)report post
by Susanne Otepka
I would like to know, if it is possible to buy Decision before Dawn in either english or german. Can anyone help?
Susanne
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Re: Decision Before Dawn (Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:54am ET)report post
by pamela hall
Attention anyone who is searching for a video of "Decision Before Dawn!"
There is currently a vhs available on EBay!!

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Re: Decision Before Dawn (Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:19pm ET)report post
by pamela hall
I believe that I have seen that a VHS is available. Have you tried Amazon?
I would also suggest your getting involved with the "Oskar Werner Online Forum". Started about a year ago by a young Austrian woman who was actually born very near to where Oskar himself was born in Vienna, this Forum is an excellent source for photos and for information about which of his films are available. I believe one of "us" (I am the oldest and the only one who knew Oskar in life) has "Decision" but I can't remember who it is. I do not have it but have seen items related to it on eBay. You could also "sign on" to eBay to be notified when items connected to Oskar and his career in films come up for sale. There is another excellent website, "Dancing With Oskar Werner." The owner of that site has also joined in on the "Online Forum." There are photos on the "Dancing" website taken from "Decision." So that might be an excellent way to start your search. For his first American film "Decision Before Dawn" was stunning. It resulted in his being blacklisted in Germany for several years. He always said that blacklisting was "an honor for him." He very much was that young man in the film. There was recently an old transparency (film frame/slide) of Oskar available on eBay which I believe was an excellent portrait, ( the incorrect chemical process had been used so that he appeared to have brown eyes and reddish brown hair). It was taken, I would guess, in Hollywood where he went after the release of "Decision." He waited around while Fox tried to figure out what to do with him. Finally, very frustrated, Oskar discarded his contract and returned home to Liechtenstein to prepare himself to return to the stage in the role which became his most famous and his own favorite, "Hamlet." So, you see, there are things from that time that do become available. But, the best thing to do, to try to track down a tape of that early film is to get involved with the "O. W. Online Forum." It's where the experts are! We all started, by the way, right here on the "Filmbug Forum." So, you are on the right track! Take the next step! I am sure someone can help you!
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